MOTHER****ERS! (London Bombed)

[andyhinds]

Now this may sound racist to some but it isn't meant that way. If it sounds it, take a good look at how you really feel about the issue. Normally the one to fight the hardest on a subject is usually the one who is trying to repress the same feeling within themself. (Notice I said Usually.) At least from a psychological standpoint.

I get disheartened at all the bigotry I see in the airsoft community.  We seem to have a much higher concentration of it than even the community at large.

And yeah, Bucket.  Same with homophobes.  We all know THEY are closet gays.

Lead

You don't see it you read it, I've never seen you at a game except LC4 so how can you say that you see it in the airsoft community, and how can you say people who don't agree with Homosexuality are gay's in the closet?  I'm not saying that retarded.... no wait yes I am, yep thats retarded!

[Gantaliano Hoff]

Bombing in London to closet Homophobes. *phew*. Great thread guys.

Threads about world events always turn into a big posting matches.

EDIT: I should start a thread about, "who can out post everyone else!"

[leadmagnet]

You don't see it you read it, I've never seen you at a game except LC4 so how can you say that you see it in the airsoft community, and how can you say people who don't agree with Homosexuality are gay's in the closet?  I'm not saying that retarded.... no wait yes I am, yep thats retarded!

When I said I "see" it, I meant as expressed in writing in airsoft forums such as this.  The bigots seldom speak that way in person of course, for obvious reasons.

Having a hard time following this conversation, Andy?  Heheh.  My homophobe comment must be taken in context of the discussion with flash.  Obviously it is a ridiculous overgeneralization to identify those who disagree with homosexuality as being gay.  It was the equivalent to the bigotry being expressed by flash however and was meant to illustrate my point.

Of course I would rather that you inquired for clarification rather than just sit there slappin yer monkey.  Good on you, son.  Good on you.

Lead

[andyhinds]

You don't see it you read it, I've never seen you at a game except LC4 so how can you say that you see it in the airsoft community, and how can you say people who don't agree with Homosexuality are gay's in the closet?  I'm not saying that retarded.... no wait yes I am, yep thats retarded!

When I said I "see" it, I meant as expressed in writing in airsoft forums such as this.  The bigots seldom speak that way in person of course, for obvious reasons.

Having a hard time following this conversation, Andy?  Heheh.  My homophobe comment must be taken in context of the discussion with flash.  Obviously it is a ridiculous overgeneralization to identify those who disagree with homosexuality as being gay.  It was the equivalent to the bigotry being expressed by flash however and was meant to illustrate my point.

Of course I would rather that you inquired for clarification rather than just sit there slappin yer monkey.  Good on you, son.  Good on you.

Lead

Only thought that comes to mind.... "Chairsofter".

I'm done.

[leadmagnet]

You don't see it you read it, I've never seen you at a game except LC4 so how can you say that you see it in the airsoft community, and how can you say people who don't agree with Homosexuality are gay's in the closet?  I'm not saying that retarded.... no wait yes I am, yep thats retarded!

When I said I "see" it, I meant as expressed in writing in airsoft forums such as this.  The bigots seldom speak that way in person of course, for obvious reasons.

Having a hard time following this conversation, Andy?  Heheh.  My homophobe comment must be taken in context of the discussion with flash.  Obviously it is a ridiculous overgeneralization to identify those who disagree with homosexuality as being gay.  It was the equivalent to the bigotry being expressed by flash however and was meant to illustrate my point.

Of course I would rather that you inquired for clarification rather than just sit there slappin yer monkey.  Good on you, son.  Good on you.

Lead

Only thought that comes to mind.... "Chairsofter".

I'm done.

Ah hell, maybe it will hit you later Andy.  (Cough, cough).

Lead

[-Wraith-]

Wow, These guys really know their stuff when it comes to impact of Religion and Ethnic customs on social conformity.  I wounder if they thought about the enviroments in which these people were raised.  A tribal system, were they allowed their tribal elder to make decisions for them.  I wonder if they thought about how different our Western culture must seam to them and how for the sense of security they remain in close nit communities.  If you actually look at how tribal societies adapt to the Western life styles, it's not really a wake-up in the morning and bang I am wearing a suit and tie.  Often it is not until the last generation that was raised in the orginal tribal system has passed that the later generations will fully intergrate into the local community.  Not always but often...
Don't forget the Religion part!!!! It's huge...

"Liberty is the air America breathes . . . In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential freedoms . . . freedom of speech and expression . . . freedom of worship . . . freedom from want . . . freedom from fear ."
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT

As for saying these people will destroy the American way of life... What is the American way of life?  Is it Bling, bling and pimp'n, is it 4X4's and Budweiser, is Hockey and snow machines???  The day there is no room in the US for some one who willing wishes to wear a Burka, Shamag or having there britches sagging to their knees then that little Declation signed back in 1776 will have no meaning.  

For Flash: So should I trade my yamulka for a baseball hat?   Or is it only Islamic and Hindy cultures that pisses you off.  Oh wait, but if you get rid of them then who's next...  mmm....

"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
with silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
-Emma Lazarus

Are you leaving out the details that what is to be considered their "tribal leader" declares Americans the enemy of their god?
They believe we all deserve to die for our culture. Men, women, and even small children. Everything that is ours is to be destroyed.
Now, I sit here and wonder, how can you possibly have sympathy for these barbaric creatures that hardly deserve the glorified word of people?
(Please note that I am not stereotyping anyone, those who are innocent and believe the oposite of what I just said, I believe are perfectly fine people)
Genocide doesn't work, we learned that in World War II did we not?
I hate the fact that yet, we step up to the plate because no one else, other than those who followed and stayed, have the balls to right the wrong, that we have to follow shit like the Geneva Convention.
They execute our soldiers, and even worse, f***ing innocent people trying to help them come out of a third world country. They don't want the help because that means they won't be in complete control. Thats the name of the game people, put your cards up or sit down.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but a wrong and a right doesn't leave everyone happy so whats the difference?

[leadmagnet]

I can't make much sense out of your last post other than you seem to think it is ok to behave as our enemies behave, Wraith.  Could you please re-word whatever it is you are trying to say?

Thanks.

Lead

[-Wraith-]

What i'm saying is, i'm tired of the U.S. having to play by the rules that terrorists are breaking.
And that you should feel no sympathy for the people who think Americans should die, and that they can treat their women horribly, dictate their people's decisions, and jail them for no legitimate reason at all.
You need to take a closer look at what these barbarians are doing and how many people they are hurting.
Think of it this way, they want to kill you and your family all because of what one group of people told them.
We're either going to be at war, or they're going to bring the war to our doorstep through guerilla tactics and suicide bombings.

[leadmagnet]

So, you're saying that we should take a closer look at what they are doing and act just like them, Wraith?

Lead

[-Wraith-]

Lead, you have a very strange mentallity and way of interpreting things.
I'm not going to explain it a third time.
And it seems to me that whenever there is strong patriotism or people getting fed up with terrorism, you're always there to run in for the rescue and defend the terrorists. Why is it that you help those who hate you and everything you believe in?

[leadmagnet]

Why is it that you help those who hate you and everything you believe in?

Because of those who would wipe their asses with my Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the principles under which this nation was founded.

Besides, I'm not helping "those who hate me and everything I believe in".  To the contrary.  I swore to defend my nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Your logic reminds me of my old hound dog's leaky ass.  Just plain faulty man, just plain faulty.
   
Lead

[-Wraith-]

Why is it that you help those who hate you and everything you believe in?

Because of those who would wipe their asses with my Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the principles under which this nation was founded.

Besides, I'm not helping "those who hate me and everything I believe in". To the contrary.  I swore to defend my nation against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Your logic reminds me of my old hound dog's leaky ass.  Just plain faulty man, just plain faulty.
   
Lead

That may be correct, however, the same type of people will take it from you, and try to hurt everyone you know. You just contradicted yourself.

If you served then I would think you would have a greater understanding of what they are doing. Did you serve in a time of war?

My logic reminds you of your dog's ass? Hmm... I'm not even going to ask how it became faulty, though it most likely was your doing.

This is getting very immature and you're the one leading it there.

[busta_cap]

Don't listen to lead...hes a political cockbag

[Greg]

Yeah, Im ashamed of myself for forgetting what this topic is really about...I have 2 good friends in England, one(thank god) lives out in the country area and he is fine, but our other friend lives in downtown london...and we haven't been able to reach him...

Don't listen to lead...hes a political cockbag

Dude, make up your mind.  :roll:

Anyway, even though I don't agree with the way that Lead started out in this thread, I start to agree with him the more that people make stupid comments at him. We are in a war against terrorists who would like to destroy everything that isn't like them. However, they can take advantage of our free society to operate without detection. Whenever we allow them to force us to use unamerican tactics in this war, we lose.

[azsarge]

Yeah, Im ashamed of myself for forgetting what this topic is really about...I have 2 good friends in England, one(thank god) lives out in the country area and he is fine, but our other friend lives in downtown london...and we haven't been able to reach him...

Don't listen to lead...hes a political cockbag

Dude, make up your mind.  :roll:

Anyway, even though I don't agree with the way that Lead started out in this thread, I start to agree with him the more that people make stupid comments at him. We are in a war against terrorists who would like to destroy everything that isn't like them. However, they can take advantage of our free society to operate without detection. Whenever we allow them to force us to use unamerican tactics in this war, we lose.

+10

Terrorists are flawed in their logic when it comes to what drives them, but very logical in that they utilize our very way of life to their advantage.

It's difficult, you see.  On one hand, we have people that do not want terrorism around, but do not want to deal with the policies that may take away some of their freedoms to deal with terrorism.

Our boys are overseas shooting bad guys in the face, and that is keeping them (the terrorists) occupied for the time being.  What we need, however, is a new way to fight terrorism at home.  There are alot of people out there that will not give up their freedoms in order to combat terrorism.  What they need to realize however, is that you can't always have your cake and eat it too.

leadmagnet, what do you propose?  It's obvious that the whole Patriot Act is not something you are a fan of, so what should we do?  I ask not to incite a riot, but because I agree with some of your posts.  I do not want to lose my freedom, whether it be from terrorists, or new gov't policy.