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« on: July 13, 2005, 10:31:44 AM »
I rather doubt NASA has done much to fix the issues with the shuttle.
I saw where the recent hurricane caused a small section to fall, and damage very high temperature tiles. NASA said they made a "QUICK FIX" and all will be OK.

I personally feel this shuttle will NOT make it back in one peice.
Obviously I hope it flys safely.
But I am wondering  how manyu others feel the Shuttle is now an outdated, held together with duct tape flying coffin?


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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2005, 10:50:54 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2005, 10:55:57 AM »
Ground the shuttle. I grew up, like most of you hearing about the Challager disaster, Do we really need to lose $$$XXXX.00 amounts of tax payers money for a nearly 40 year old piece of hardwear.
IF NASA learned from the Challanger not to fire up *shuttle whatever* and head into the heavens. Due to hurricane Dennis, the spaceshuttle frame cant possibly function properly equaling to another multi million dollar loss of hardwear and trained personel.

*ground the damn thing.

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2005, 11:26:27 AM »
Yeah, trying is the first step towards failure.  Everyone knows that.  :roll:
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Re: NASA/Shuttle
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2005, 11:30:46 AM »
Quote from: "FLASHinAZ"
I rather doubt NASA has done much to fix the issues with the shuttle.
I saw where the recent hurricane caused a small section to fall, and damage very high temperature tiles. NASA said they made a "QUICK FIX" and all will be OK.

I personally feel this shuttle will NOT make it back in one peice.
Obviously I hope it flys safely.
But I am wondering  how manyu others feel the Shuttle is now an outdated, held together with duct tape flying coffin?


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Well, what's your idea then?
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2005, 12:12:24 PM »
I think it will be fine.  I just finished (3months ago) working on the X-33 flight controls, NASA guys are hardcore, quadruple redundency for the control systems, and safety IS thier top priority.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2005, 12:28:01 PM »
I agree.  NASA never does anything half-cocked.  Yes they have accidents, but they still have a enviable saftey record with all things considered.  And they are also the only space program we have towards getting us off this rock.  :)
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2005, 12:31:25 PM »
Turn the dang pice of crap into a Burger joint. "Hi welcome to Challager". Home of the Rocket flamed Burger, "Can I take your order?

Well thats my two cents!!!
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2005, 12:48:59 PM »
Keep in mind that the "space race" was one of the major forces behind driving new technology that is used in commercial and military applications.

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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2005, 12:54:13 PM »
Anyone old enough to remember the Moon landings... Well, we never went back due to this fancy pickup truck and the worthless Intl. Space Station.

Calling Burt and Dick Rutan!

Scrap the Shuttle, aim higher. I want to see people on Mars before I die.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 02:20:49 PM »
Quote from: "andyhinds"
Keep in mind that the "space race" was one of the major forces behind driving new technology that is used in commercial and military applications.

http://members.tripod.com/spaceracehistory/spin.shtml


A lot of things came from research done for NASA.  TANG is one!
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 02:55:21 PM »
from several sources--

The launch scrub cost NASA an estimated $616,000 US in fuel and labour costs.




Lots of Tang!


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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2005, 06:12:03 PM »
Guys, the real problem here is not NASA, not engineers, and not technical issues. Where does NASA get their money? From Congress. How would you like to attempt to run a highly complex program with a board of directors composed of 535 people the majority of which have not the faintest clue what you're trying to accomplish. But what they do know is that the money in your budget should all be spent in THEIR state, and that it's more important that you hire a number of females/gays/lesbians/handicapped/iliiterates-on-the-job-improvement program than accomplish your primary mission. And of course that the rocket engines and guidance hardware is built in East Broken Jaw, (their home state) than in a location where the product might actually work.
So have some sympathy for NASA's top management who are tormented with all of the above on a daily basis. Hell, it's a tribute to their tenacity and salesmanship that the shuttle ever flew at all!
And while we're at it, NASA and USAF have technology pretty close to ready to go for a surface to orbit vehicle. But they're dealing with Congress ....... maybe in 20 years....
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2005, 09:22:03 PM »
I'm a big fan of manned spaceflight myself.

Personally tho I think the shuttle is nearing the end of it's lifespan.

The big problem? We have no replacement vehicle.

We don't have anyone working on a new vehicle, we don't have anyone even THINKING about a replacement vehicle.

A replacement is going to cost billions and billions, and take over a decade to design and build Unless you increase taxes you're not going to suddenly find that money.

Bush tried to talk about spaceflight with his manned Mars mission idea, but he gave it 0$ in funding. And he's all about cutting taxes.

So we keep flying the old hardware.

Would you pay more taxes for a new shuttle?

*shrug*
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2005, 10:17:20 PM »
Isn't the new space shuttle design and production of the X-33 supposed to happen?  Or is this just an idea that has lost steam or is being delayed?
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