U.S. Airsoft Corps

[woody]

So anyone know Douglas Thorpe, Battalion Commander of the Arizona Section of U.S. Airsoft? Picked that up off their website.

[IcePlatinumSky]

I'm just putting thie information out there, not asking anyone in particular to join. USAC is not for everyone. Those who want more of a military element to the game would be the target demographic.  (More realistic training, tactics, etc.)

The very reason why Mark and I came up with MOSKVASPEZNAS. Also it involves having to pay a membership fee. I play here at AA, and at LC events play with AA, so theorfore dont see a purpose. Plus its free!!!

[gixser13]

Yeah, I saw that as well. They picked someone none of use know or can vouch for

[Vince]

That's that guy Doc Hollywood.

[Mugen]

Andy, I am still VERY interested in what you and I were talking about at the August 3rd game.

Need to find another 18 guys and we're set!

MUGEN: Present!

[Doc Hollywood]

Hey guys, you dont want to get involved its no problem. Perhaps I should have just not posted the info. But the fact remains that USAC is here and it has something to offer. Its not here to replace AA or anything else. No one here has a monopoly on airsoft in this state, nor is there a monopoly on fields to play in for that matter. I like the organization and what I think it can bring to the state. If the Centurians (I know i spelled it wrong - GFY) were here in Arizona I'd join them. Not everyone want that kind of realism.

To answer the question about who would be conducting the training, it would only be prior service members qualified in a particular area or law enforcement. Its in the works.

To address the post about US Airsoft and USAC - no they are not the same, nor were they created at the same time. But whatever.

[Vince]

First, nothing can replace AA.

Second, I think that 90% of the people on here strive for milsim.

This just looks retarded.

[Doc Hollywood]

Thanks for your opinion. Duly noted.

[FLASHinAZ]

First, nothing can replace AA.quote]

Sorry Vince, but  a long night of Punging poontang, beats AA!!


FLASH

[busta_cap]

Hey guys, you dont want to get involved its no problem. Perhaps I should have just not posted the info. But the fact remains that USAC is here and it has something to offer. Its not here to replace AA or anything else. No one here has a monopoly on airsoft in this state, nor is there a monopoly on fields to play in for that matter. I like the organization and what I think it can bring to the state. If the Centurians (I know i spelled it wrong - GFY) were here in Arizona I'd join them. Not everyone want that kind of realism.

To answer the question about who would be conducting the training, it would only be prior service members qualified in a particular area or law enforcement. Its in the works.

To address the post about US Airsoft and USAC - no they are not the same, nor were they created at the same time. But whatever.

If I am gonna be going to California just to get training, Id rather have it for the real thing and apply it in airsoft in a similar way. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool idea, but I don't think most guys are going to pay more than what it costs to attend LC just for a weekend of training.

And, I think you are talking about the Cimmerians.. As far as a monopoly, well, that's really not needed...when AZ players go to events Like Lion Claws etc, it's usually everyone that knows each other pretty well... Besides ranking systems in airsoft NOT in big games is a bad idea.... I don't know how you are used to tihngs where ever you are from, but it is a different here. Seems like you register...and a week later you want to be "in charge" of a bunch of people.. just not my cup of tea personally.

[Raith]

And, I think you are talking about the Cimmerians..

There is a group in CA called the Cimmerians and a group called the Centurions.  If I remember correctly, there has been some strife between them.

[Greg]

If I am gonna be going to California just to get training, Id rather have it for the real thing and apply it in airsoft in a similar way. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool idea, but I don't think most guys are going to pay more than what it costs to attend LC just for a weekend of training.

And, I think you are talking about the Cimmerians.. As far as a monopoly, well, that's really not needed...when AZ players go to events Like Lion Claws etc, it's usually everyone that knows each other pretty well... Besides ranking systems in airsoft NOT in big games is a bad idea.... I don't know how you are used to tihngs where ever you are from, but it is a different here. Seems like you register...and a week later you want to be "in charge" of a bunch of people.. just not my cup of tea personally.

I actually agree with busta quite a bit here. One of the biggest problems I see with airsofters is that many get too into clubhouse BS like teams and ranks and stuff, and don't actually get out to games and have fun.

I would not want to pay a lot of money to go to an airsoft training event put on by some airsofter. Tactical Response only charges $150/day for most of their courses. Coming out of one of those would be a whole lot better than something run by some airsoft dude that spent 3 years as a REMF, read too much arfcom, and watched too many action movies.

Airsoft does not need more organization. It needs more people to get off their asses and get to games.

edit: I'm not saying that airsoft training is a bad thing, though. Getting more small training events together to get newer guys spooled up on basics and to get the regulars working better together can't be a bad thing. But charging for much more than 1) the property rental costs, if needed and 2) the instuctors' lunches is kinda lame unless there are good instructors there.

[andyhinds]

If I am gonna be going to California just to get training, Id rather have it for the real thing and apply it in airsoft in a similar way. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool idea, but I don't think most guys are going to pay more than what it costs to attend LC just for a weekend of training.

And, I think you are talking about the Cimmerians.. As far as a monopoly, well, that's really not needed...when AZ players go to events Like Lion Claws etc, it's usually everyone that knows each other pretty well... Besides ranking systems in airsoft NOT in big games is a bad idea.... I don't know how you are used to tihngs where ever you are from, but it is a different here. Seems like you register...and a week later you want to be "in charge" of a bunch of people.. just not my cup of tea personally.

I actually agree with busta quite a bit here. One of the biggest problems I see with airsofters is that many get too into clubhouse BS like teams and ranks and stuff, and don't actually get out to games and have fun.

I would not want to pay a lot of money to go to an airsoft training event put on by some airsofter. Tactical Response only charges $150/day for most of their courses. Coming out of one of those would be a whole lot better than something run by some airsoft dude that spent 3 years as a REMF, read too much arfcom, and watched too many action movies.

Airsoft does not need more organization. It needs more people to get off their asses and get to games.

edit: I'm not saying that airsoft training is a bad thing, though. Getting more small training events together to get newer guys spooled up on basics and to get the regulars working better together can't be a bad thing. But charging for much more than 1) the property rental costs, if needed and 2) the instuctors' lunches is kinda lame unless there are good instructors there.

3) There is no replacement for acutal experience.  You can't explain to somebody HOW to be a great player, its something that comes with time and experience.

[Doc Hollywood]

No one is trying to be in charge here. I was asked to organize USAC here in Arizona based on my background.  Thank you for your opinions guys. Its given me some great ideas. Also thanks to those who are showing interest.

[-Wraith-]

I personally like the idea of ranks etc. but they get jumbled around with playing with others and basically mean nothing. However it would be fun to just do it as a training exercise to keep the edge on your team or when going your team vs. another (No mixing of players from oposite teams).
The site however needs a little work and they spelled Alpha wrong on their roster page (Just a note to Doc to notify the webmaster).
Also, only 46 active members, and having to pay $20-50 is a bit excessive. Maybe if you had the training centers local etc it might be a little more popular.
I like the idea, but then again, for now, until I get my gear, i'm a professional chairsofter