« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: Medic gets shot, captures sniper, then treats him  (Read 2364 times)

Offline Giland

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 172
    • View Profile
Medic gets shot, captures sniper, then treats him
« on: July 19, 2005, 08:00:48 AM »
Anyone see this story?
Medic gets shot by a sniper, vest saves him, they then shoot and capture the person who shot him, and he treats him.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1- ... 976420.php
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Giland »
Logged
________________________________
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Offline Mugen

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 310
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 08:05:31 AM »
Yep...seen the video, and had a "disgussion" about the type of round that was fired...the range, and what type of ballistic plates that were used.....(the old thread was removed..apparently)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Mugen »
Logged
It was once believed that Chuck Norris actually lost a fight to a
pirate, but that is a lie, created by Chuck Norris himself to lure more pirates to him. Pirates never were very smart.

Offline Farslayer

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2103
    • View Profile
    • http://www.amsog.com
(No subject)
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 08:40:41 AM »
Gix posted this earlier this week....but thanks.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Farslayer »
Logged
Benn

Offline HavHav

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1474
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 11:25:25 AM »
If someone just shot me, theres no way I would attempt to save them in that situation.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by HavHav »
Logged

Offline busta_cap

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Lieutenant General
  • *****
  • Posts: 3887
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 11:31:18 AM »
Quote from: "HavHav"
If someone just shot me, theres no way I would attempt to save them in that situation.
Too bad. It's his job and he has to do it, and that just goes to show you what kind of people we have in our military, I don't think you would last too long with that mentality.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by busta_cap »
Logged

Offline Long Trang

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 410
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2005, 11:34:31 AM »
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Long Trang »
Logged

Offline azsarge

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • General
  • *****
  • Posts: 9999
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2005, 12:44:59 PM »
Here's the thread you guys were talking about:
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/forumbb/viewtopic.php?t=7242
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by azsarge »
Logged

Offline Doc Hollywood

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1564
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2005, 01:01:30 PM »
Quote from: busta_cap
Quote from: HavHav
If someone just shot me, theres no way I would attempt to save them in that situation.
Too bad. It's his job and he has to do it, and that just goes to show you what kind of people we have in our military, I don't think you would last too long with that mentality.


The rules of engagement DO NOT require medics to treat enemy combatants. There is no law within the UCMJ that requires a medic to do so. Try getting shot and being faced with that decision before you talk out of your posterior cavity.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Doc Hollywood »
Logged

Offline gixser13

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2221
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2005, 01:30:34 PM »
Its says alot about him as a person to save the life of the enemy combatants. You wont see that on channel 15 news only the negative stuff
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by gixser13 »
Logged

Offline HavHav

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1474
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2005, 01:37:06 PM »
Quote from: "busta_cap"
Quote from: "HavHav"
If someone just shot me, theres no way I would attempt to save them in that situation.
Too bad. It's his job and he has to do it, and that just goes to show you what kind of people we have in our military, I don't think you would last too long with that mentality.


Doc Hollywood beat me to it.

Sorry I'm not a hardened killer/life saver like yourself. People think they know what they would do in situations, how they would keep calm. But until you are there and are faced with it, just keep your mouth shut when your only 16. Yes, I'm 17, but I'm not telling people what kind of mentality they have.  :roll:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by HavHav »
Logged

Offline gixser13

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2221
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2005, 01:44:05 PM »
:lol:  edit
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by gixser13 »
Logged

Offline MicrowvbleTurtle

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 429
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2005, 03:43:53 PM »
Believe it or not CNN just showed a story on the incident and the reaction of both the soldier and his family.

They showed extended footage from the video where he's pointing towards the van from behind his vehicle.  Then two HMMWVs come rolling out of the left side of the screen with their crew-served weapons pointed at the van.  All the Jihadis said  was "Get out.  Get out."
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by MicrowvbleTurtle »
Logged

Offline Reaver

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • First Lieutenant
  • *****
  • Posts: 888
    • View Profile
    • http://teamfe0.tripod.com
(No subject)
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2005, 12:35:17 PM »
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
The rules of engagement DO NOT require medics to treat enemy combatants. There is no law within the UCMJ that requires a medic to do so. Try getting shot and being faced with that decision before you talk out of your posterior cavity.


  Um, incorrect.  Being an ex-medic, we've been taught that the medic is obligated to treat ALL wounded (Article 3, Section 2).  It is in the Geneva Conventions which we are obliged to follow and states: (2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for. An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.  

However, there is a caveat.  Special forces units are not under any such obligations.  Also, there is nothing that say's the medic can't treat HIS people first.  ;)

Oh, of course nothing say's the medic can't defend himself or his patients.  As an interesting note, there are many Medal of Honor reciepients that we're medics.  ;)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Reaver »
Logged

Offline Doc Hollywood

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1564
    • View Profile
(No subject)
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2005, 12:45:46 PM »
I am (was - but you never loose it) a combat medic as well. The geneva convention obligation (I wasn't there and didn't sign it by the way) would not apply until the wounded became a prisoner. So long as he was considered an armed combatant he gets dead. My medical obligation and triage order was limited to: first, my team, second, other friendly troops, third, civilians. But then in the 80's we were not a "touchy feely" kind of army.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Doc Hollywood »
Logged

Offline Reaver

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • First Lieutenant
  • *****
  • Posts: 888
    • View Profile
    • http://teamfe0.tripod.com
(No subject)
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2005, 12:50:04 PM »
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
I am (was - but you never loose it) a combat medic as well. The geneva convention obligation (I wasn't there and didn't sign it by the way) would not apply until the wounded became a prisoner. So long as he was considered an armed combatant he gets dead. My medical obligation and triage order was limited to: first, my team, second, other friendly troops, third, civilians. But then in the 80's we were not a "touchy feely" kind of army.


  Well, like I said, there's nothing that say's he can't treat his team first... and then the enemy.  ;)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Reaver »
Logged
Pages: [1] 2
« previous next »