*Airsoft Guns Parents on the Front Line of a Risky Hobby *

[zckman_2001]

In a legal sence... yes.

no, in a legal scene 18 and over makes an adult, not a responsible person

[-MAD- SARGE]

I think David means responsible as in responsible for ones actions, legally that is.

Ok well some have seen this before, Gixser found this one.  Yet another good example.

http://submissions.newsfilter.org/./uploads/Plea.wmv

[zckman_2001]

I don't think he was since this whole post is about Responsible actions, not responsible legally. just saying.

[Ganef]

Actually I did mean it in a legal way, so... owned. You can prove how mature you think you are but age is age in the eyes of the law. If you are over 18 and not mature then it is legally not anyones fault but your own when you do stupid sh*t.

Maturity at age is debateable, but leagal responsability and liability isn't. By agreeing that some "non-adults" (under 18) are mature and responsable enough to come out to games without parental consent and supervision, we are essentially opening up the floodgates to legal trouble.

[Patty o' Brian]

I can see where some of you older guys are coming from. Not wanting to be responsible for a minor getting injured.

I wont be one of the minors who sits there and complains about the situation. for now i will play with tac.

[chainsaw]

I can see where some of you older guys are coming from. Not wanting to be responsible for a minor getting injured.

I wont be one of the minors who sits there and complains about the situation. for now i will play with tac.

You have stated that twice in this thread already, I personally have not seen you at any games except for the lager ones like RSD.

[HelsinkiVampire]

I can see where this is coming from.  Funny story actually theres this park behind my house right, I was walking to my friends house the other day, and i see this group of 6 or 7 4th graders yelling at this other group of young kids right. so all of a sudden this kid pulls out this clear pistol and all the kids friggen scream bluddy murder and run in all directions. omg I almost fell over. I also understand why most aa games are 18+ only, you dont want some kid gettin bloddied up and mommy and daddy callin mr lawer on aa. i understand that and am fine for unoffical desert games. well anyway from anything really. untill im of age really

[Lightning_Man]

I find the degree of concerne over safety interesting. I agree it is a potentially dangerous hobby and that gun handling rules should be stressed for airsoft equal to real firearms but I think the biggest danger for youg people and this hobby is being mistaken by police for armed hooligans. When I had my first go at airsoft (1989) I was 17 and we used to call the local PD and tell them we were playing and when and where. As for intrinsic dangers, losing an eye maybe, but teen football players are in a lot more danger than any airsift player, I won't even mention hockey, or what getting hit by a fastbal can do to you. It's just that tthis is new to people and looks like war.

[deathbydanish]

I find the degree of concerne over safety interesting. I agree it is a potentially dangerous hobby and that gun handling rules should be stressed for airsoft equal to real firearms but I think the biggest danger for youg people and this hobby is being mistaken by police for armed hooligans. When I had my first go at airsoft (1989) I was 17 and we used to call the local PD and tell them we were playing and when and where. As for intrinsic dangers, losing an eye maybe, but teen football players are in a lot more danger than any airsift player, I won't even mention hockey, or what getting hit by a fastbal can do to you. It's just that tthis is new to people and looks like war.

I like the way you think, I wish at least 3/4 of the young people I see out there with airsoft guns had half the sense you have.

And yeah I've seen what a hockey puck can do when it hits you in the face, anyone remember Jeremy Roenick?

[zckman_2001]

Actually I did mean it in a legal way, so... owned. You can prove how mature you think you are but age is age in the eyes of the law. If you are over 18 and not mature then it is legally not anyones fault but your own when you do stupid sh*t.

Maturity at age is debateable, but leagal responsability and liability isn't. By agreeing that some "non-adults" (under 18) are mature and responsable enough to come out to games without parental consent and supervision, we are essentially opening up the floodgates to legal trouble.

yeah, I'm sure you WERE talking in a legal sense, since all the posts before had nothing really to do with legal, but how you acted. SO, if you fell like you must make up something to make yourself fell bigger in the eyes of a 16 year old, you do that buddy!

Also, (I think it was in the letter from an earlier post/link) but when you can drive, you can't really play anywhere else. And what do you expect us to do? We sit and play video games and don't really run around, we gain some weight and the Gilbert school district has a new "Healthy Food Program". We use paintball guns, a ball shoots wild and hits a house, we're in trouble for vandalism. Some of the people are too young to drive and that means they're only choice is a greenbelt down the street.

[-MAD- SARGE]

Ok, well that reeks of intelligence.

[zckman_2001]

yes, the first paragraph was badly written and only written to get back at the other guy, but it made me feel better!!  

the second paragraph is true, and I know from experience. The Gilbert school system thinks we're too overweight and has a "healthy food program"( but we can have pizza hut's greasey personal pans),my friend was in trouble for vandalism because a paintball went wild( he's a bad shot), and a couple of the kids in my neighborhood's fastest transportation is their bike (mom's WILL NOT drive us everywhere, we're not always the only child) so they can't go far. Even if they could, where could they afford to go? :?:  :?:

[Kurn]

And what do you expect us to do?

Wait a couple years until you are an adult?  We were all kids once and know how much it sucks to not be allowed to do certain things, but there is no reason why you couldn’t find another hobby until you are of age.

[SilentDragon]

And what do you expect us to do?

Wait a couple years until you are an adult?  We were all kids once and know how much it sucks to not be allowed to do certain things, but there is no reason why you couldn’t find another hobby until you are of age.

Yeah.  I remember playing "James Bond" with a bunch of friends when i was really young, using toy guns that shot nothing.  We even faked our deaths... lol.  Maybe i should act out a death when i get hit during a game, just make it look all cool.  

Also... tha Sig226 he was using... he was calling it a "Sig266" if i heard him right... :lol:

[zckman_2001]

And what do you expect us to do?

Wait a couple years until you are an adult?  We were all kids once and know how much it sucks to not be allowed to do certain things, but there is no reason why you couldn’t find another hobby until you are of age.

Yeah.  I remember playing "James Bond" with a bunch of friends when i was really young, using toy guns that shot nothing.  We even faked our deaths... lol.  Maybe i should act out a death when i get hit during a game, just make it look all cool.  

Also... tha Sig226 he was using... he was calling it a "Sig266" if i heard him right... :lol:

Halo's kind played out. and MOST shooting games that are good can't be bought witout a parent. And I don't think Teletubbies has let out a new game lately